Re: X-X-SAMPA (Keeping the Standard)

--- In conlang@y..., Lars Henrik Mathiesen <thorinn@D...> wrote:

> Anyway, wanting to separate two symbols doesn't necessarily imply a
> syllable break. For instance, you might want to contrast /i-ts/ (with
> an affricate) and /it-s/ (with separate consonants).
Does anyone actually make a difference it speech there?


> See above for the period. (Which is however still unambiguous, because
> a syllable break won't occur at the end of a word). The other symbols
> will be problems as well if you're using real IPA, so presumably
> people would have learned to avoid putting them right after IPA words
> --- but , isn't used in IPA, so using it in X-SAMPA would create new
> ambiguities.
Not really.  I propose /,/ as a secondary stress marker that comes
*before* the secondarily stressed syllable, so it would make no sense
to read a string-final comma as secondary stress.


> > As for /1 }/, I just noticed we still have /i* u*/ available.
>
> Not if you want to use * for diacritics --- otherwise, /i*t/ could be
> either a breathy-voiced /i/ or /1t/.
No.  Breathy-voiced /i/ would be /i_t/, not /i\t/, which is what /i*t/
represents.


-- Christian Thalmann

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