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Re: [SHOEBOX] answers to David and jeff

From:The Gray Wizard <dbell@...>
Date:Friday, July 21, 2000, 21:14
> From: dirk elzinga > > > > No, the auxiliary actually does not have a root, but consists > solely of the > > mood, aspect and tense inflections. > > > > for example: > > > > The boy is eating the soup. > > > > \t ir adanisse eliras im mastmear-0 > > \m i adan =is -e el -ir -as in masad - mear -0 > > \g the man =small -[A] assertive -prog -pres to food - liquid -[P] > > \p DET N =DIM -ERG MOOD -ASP -TENSE PTP N - N -ABS > > \f the boy is to soup > > > > \t ervathiel > > \m er- matho -ie -l > > \g do- eat -agt/thm -actn > > \p AGT- V -VAL -VC > > \f eat > > > > In the sentence, all of the semantic content is in the lexical verb > > "ervathiel". The auxiliary "eliras" is both semantically empty > and rootless > > consisting of the mood prefix el-, the aspect suffix -ir, and the tense > > suffix -as. Only the aspect affix is optional. Shoebox forces > me to define > > one of these (I chose the mood prefix) as a root. > > Do the auxiliary affixes occur on any other forms? If not, I don't see > why it would be a problem to simply call the mood "prefix" the root of > auxiliary affixation.
No, not in amman iar which is why calling the mood prefix a root works. For amman iar it's not really a problem, but this won't be the case for amman iar's sister language forendar which uses the mood prefix more freely.
> Here's another question: do these auxiliaries come in a specific place > in the sentence, say second position? If so, then what you may have is > a clitic chain rather than the bona fide lexical category of > Auxiliary. I don't know Shoebox, so I can't tell you how it would > handle clitics but I assume it would be able to do that since SIL > deals with many languages with well-established clitic inventories.
Auxiliary placement is more complicated then that. The position of the auxiliary verb AUX is semantically determined by the argument structure of the predicate. In the absence of a patientive or theme argument, the auxiliary verb takes sentence final position S V LOC AUX, thus: The tiger pounced in the forest. i dais ergabedhel i daurar eleth. \t i dais ergabedhel i daurar eleth \m i tais er- cabedho -e -l i taur -ar el -eth \g the tiger do- jump -agt -actn the forest -in assertive -past \p DET N AGT- V -VAL -VC DET N -INESS MOOD -TENSE \f S=AGT V LOC AUX Otherwise, the auxiliary verb immediately precedes the patient/Theme particle (PTP) which in turn precedes the patientive/theme argument, AUX PTP S V thus, The eagle is dying. eliras en i thoren ascoirar. \t eliras en i thoren ascoirar \m el -ir -as en i thoren as= coiro -ar \g assertive -prog -pres to the eagle complement= live -in \p MOOD -ASP -TENSE PTP DET N PREF= V -INESS \f AUX PTP S=PAT V David David E. Bell The Gray Wizard dbell@graywizard.net www.graywizard.net "Nature never repeats herself, and the possibilities of one human soul will never be found in another." ------Elizabeth C. Stanton