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Re: EAK nouns

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 21:28
Quoting Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>:

> Hi! > > Benct Philip Jonsson writes: > > On 13.5.2007 Jörg Rhiemeier wrote: > > > > > This sort of thing was actually common in the speech of > > > educated Germans some time ago. Latin loans were declined > > > Latin-wise. It no longer is, though. > > > > I have an only 30 year old German book which uses the > > accusative "Jesum", but that's probably a special case. > > Indeed, Latin declension is still in active use in Christian context > for quite some people. The usage of the accusative and dative forms > is probably rare outside a church, but the genitive 'Jesu Christi' is > the norm.
_Jesu_ and _Kristi_ are alive as gentives of _Jesus_, _Kristus_ also in Swedish, tho the nativized _Jesus'_ and _Kristus'_ are no doubt more common, at least in speech. I've seen _Petri_ as genitive of _Petrus_ (= the apostle Peter) in a few more-or-less contemporary texts, but otherwise Latinizing gentives seem to be dead here. Tangentially, I've seen German texts that seem to use _Marien_ as the genitive of _Maria_. What's up with that? Andreas

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