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Re: Language naming terminology

From:Pablo Flores <fflores@...>
Date:Thursday, September 24, 1998, 0:20
John Cowan wrote:

>Pablo Flores scripsisset: > >> 'Brasil' comes from the same root >> as 'brasa' (lit piece of coal, burnt wood reduced to carbon; what's the >> English word?). > >"Charcoal" ("char" is a verb meaning to partially burn).
Thanks for the word!
>But there may also have been an influence from the mythical Irish >land of Hy Braseail (sp?), which was thought to lie in the Atlantic.
Yes, there certainly could be an influence, but how did it get to the Portuguese colonizers? I remember being surprised the first time I heard about Hy Braseail (it said Hy Brasil actually). Anyway the only reference to this I have is having read Jack Vance's Lyonesse trilogy, taking place in the mythical Elder Islands, of which the largest one was Hy Braseail/Brasil -- but it was in the North Atlantic, between the British Isles and Vizcaya (North Spain). begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(BH``0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`.@#```"````% ````,``# %````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```%(`````````@2L?I+ZC$!F=;@#=`0]4`@````!#;VYS=')U8W1E9"!, M86YG=6%G97,@3&ES= !33510`$-/3DQ!3D= 0E)/5TY632Y"4D]73BY%1%4` M```>``(P`0````4```!33510`````!X``S !````&@```$-/3DQ!3D= 0E)/ M5TY632Y"4D]73BY%1%4````>`!H``0```!0```!215!/4E0N25!-+DY/5$4N M3D12`$ `,@" \$I$2N>]`0,`! P``````P`%#/____\#`!4,````$ ,`_@\& M````'@`!$ $```!$````3F\@=')A;G-P;W)T('!R;W9I9&5R('=A<R!A=F%I M;&%B;&4@9F]R(&1E;&EV97)Y('1O('1H:7,@<F5C:7!I96YT+@`>``$P`0`` M`!T````G0V]N<W1R=6-T960@3&%N9W5A9V5S($QI<W0G``````(!"S !```` M'P```%--5% Z0T].3$%.1T!"4D]73E9-+D)23U=.+D5$50```P``.0`````" M`1(Z`0```%(`````````@2L?I+ZC$!F=;@#=`0]4`@````!#;VYS=')U8W1E M9"!,86YG=6%G97,@3&ES= !33510`$-/3DQ!3D= 0E)/5TY632Y"4D]73BY% M1%4````>`!,Z`0```!T````G0V]N<W1R=6-T960@3&%N9W5A9V5S($QI<W0G M``````(!%#H!````'P```%--5% Z0T].3$%.1T!"4D]73E9-+D)23U=.+D5$ M50``"P! .@$````"`?8/`0````0````````%#@````,``# &````"P`/#@$` M```"`?\/`0```%(`````````@2L?I+ZC$!F=;@#=`0]4`@````!#;VYS=')U M8W1E9"!,86YG=6%G97,@3&ES= !33510`$-/3DQ!3D= 0E)/5TY632Y"4D]7 M3BY%1%4````>``(P`0````4```!33510`````!X``S !````&@```$-/3DQ! M3D= 0E)/5TY632Y"4D]73BY%1%4````>`!H``0````@```!)4$TN3D]410,` M%0P!`````P#^#P8````>``$P`0```!T````G0V]N<W1R=6-T960@3&%N9W5A M9V5S($QI<W0G``````(!"S !````'P```%--5% Z0T].3$%.1T!"4D]73E9- M+D)23U=.+D5$50```P``.0`````"`10Z`0```! ```#HCG''(5/2$9PI1$53 M5 ``"P! .@$````"`?8/`0````0````````&A= !"( '`!@```!)4$TN36EC M<F]S;V9T($UA:6PN3F]T90`Q" $$@ $`( ```%)%.B!,86YG=6%G92!N86UI M;F<@=&5R;6EN;VQO9WD`B L!!8 #``X```#.!PD`%P`5`!0`*0`#`$H!`08` M!P`8````25!-+DUI8W)O<V]F="!-86EL+DYO=&4`,0@!(( #``X```#.!PD` M%P`4`!$`"@`#`"<!`0F `0`A````13@X13<Q0S<R,34S1#(Q,3E#,CDT-#0U M-3,U-# P,# `R 8!`Y &`!0%```3````"P`C```````#`"8```````L`*0`` M`````P`V``````! `#D`@.3L*5'GO0$>`' ``0```" ```!213H@3&%N9W5A M9V4@;F%M:6YG('1E<FUI;F]L;V=Y``(!<0`!````%@````&]YTD2(,=QCNE3 M(1'2G"E$15-4`````!X`'@P!````!0```%--5% `````'@`?# $````;```` M9F9L;W)E<T!T874N=V%M86YI+F%P8RYO<F<```,`!A!HR?.L`P`'$*L"```> M``@0`0```&4```!*3TA.0T]704Y74D]413I004),3T9,3U)%4U-#4DE04TE3 M4T54.D)205-)3$-/34531E)/351(15-!34523T]405-"4D%302A,2510245# M14]&0T]!3"Q"55).5%=/3T121415``````(!"1 !````;0,``&D#``!>!@`` M3%I&=7:B;"C_``H!#P(5`J0#Y 7K`H,`4!,#5 (`8V@*P'-E=&XR!@`&PP*# M,@1&`@!P<')Q,2 (50>R`H,SAP/%$X,2(G-T96T"@/Y]"H (SPG9`H *@0VQ M"V# ;F<Q,#,T"OL2\2L+\A.@;Q808P5 2F\V: .@"%!W$7$9N3$XZ" @=QJB M.AFO&K0*C[<=;QYX&]L^'T\:M% !H/D6T"!&%M$'D03S`) $$/T2`#H@OR'/ M'_\E?R:/&J5 /B G0G)A`)!L'"<@!: '@@-2('1HZF4D4&$'@" #8!JP* ^O M*1\J+"LP*O!B*R%A*W"H*&QI!4!P")!C+&",;V8K@0= +"!B"'"W`C <H"S@ M9"S "8!U,4 U,I!T(]!C"L &X&X[\QR@$<!T)P0@+$$M'RXOS2HL11CP,-!S M:#)1"R#X/RDN-(\UGR=/.,\YWUD:I2)#$<$QHB(PL")/$;(^P 0`, `@=@20 M8FX@!X `< N 9S,B'K%T>0<Q;'DQ\SA?&B0>=E1Y$<!N:RO1!;$L0C@"(9]! MOQQ3'H4\OQJE0G4%0+<L01= /_!A03 '0',CT/\1P#^P,? )X3 ``Z +@!C M30I0;C%!*_=M>2Q :?LS8 ,@2040-]!$SSQO&EKW&-$RD#%Q2$$P*Q) $ ,1 M^"AS<#A ,> SX$N -^'G,!$L0 A@9VA(,2/0,-!G+& +@"PS0708T4#@8_M! MKT7+60>0,>!(5#% `"#G"W%!(06@=6PRD$F02=O/,>(%0%%@!^!D:3*0,.'N M9Q(`,R(L0E 6X5& "E O$? K@1;0`P!Z!)!S/W]+P#*A!X &T!1!29! 0G.? M"' 3H 0`,P(L469I$>#_2#$'<5K1+% +$3 `!N!((?]/BS#A+(!884^%`Q$` MT%F@XT$"09=!;GD;@$$P+$+W`B!!(1= 9DAQ2G)9`S]AOUV!25(_84E!0$(7 M0&$RD.)*`-!K(%8`<#% -"'<3'D"( >06?%T!1 6T.1G>55!86M 0@M1,4&; M4D5+1T56D!1!27-/`M]5,3%Q4+0L0@M@<EC 70&79=%1`T^)+U_E+2U7P_<P MX5$24D5.%N$WX%*V,>']$@!W2:(L0BL0,. WPFD!6P>13Q)66G S8'D_D"B] M;>13'K +@$&7%F$`<M ````#`! 0``````,`$1 !````0 `',. Y=4I(Y[T! M0 `(,. Y=4I(Y[T!`@$4.@$````0````Z(YQQR%3TA&<*41%4U0``!X`/0`! 1````!0```%)%.B `````'X(` ` end