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Re: THEORY: language and the brain [Interesting article]

From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Wednesday, July 2, 2003, 15:44
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 11:41:58 +0100 Ian Spackman
<ianspackman@...> writes:
> I think this is more to do with English than with Japanese. I've > heard > English speakers describing the Japanese r as "exactly halfway > between r > and l", and there is something to this to my ear, but this is surely > because English r is just an approximant. > I sometimes wonder how speaker of those English dialects which have > the alveolar flap as allophones of /d/ and /t/ hear it. > Ian
- I speak one of those dialects, although sometimes i also have [?] in the same environment under influence from other people i know. But when i was taking Japanese, the /r/ sounded like a mix of [d] [l] and [r], and in different environments it resembled one or more of them more than others; i definitely remember certain times it sounded extremely [l]-like to me. It wasn't nearly as confusing as the Arabic /G/, though, which could sound like [G] [w] [3] [R] and a few other sounds i can't remember at the moment. -Stephen (Steg) "do it under some foliage" (the answer to all of life's problems and complications) ~ the huck finn of the lower east side