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Re: THEORY: language and the brain [Interesting article]

From:Tristan <kesuari@...>
Date:Wednesday, July 2, 2003, 15:02
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 00:52, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> Huh. Based on such descriptions as "halfway between l and r", > I'd just assumed that [l] was an allophonic or dialectical variant > of Japanese /4/; I haven't heard enough Japanese for it to be suspicious > that I hadn't heard [l] firsthand. But I guess it's just another case > of non-phoneticists getting their "explanation" wrong. :)
Well, I've heard native speakers natively speaking Japanese in a real life, and things like /rja/ (i.e. big RI, small ya) sounded exactly like [lja] to me, but that could just be my non-rhotic ear playing tricks on me.
> Speaking of Japanese phonology - I originally thought, based on the book > I was using, that /u/ was, in fact, pronounced [u]. But then upon > listening to some Japanese speech, I decided it was [y] instead. Now, > after listening to much more Japanese, I have decided it's actually > [M]. Am I right yet? Are two or more of the above allophonic > variants?
[M] is the correct one, yes. -- Tristan.

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BP Jonsson <bpj@...>Japanese /r/ (was THEORY: language and the brain [Interesting article])