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Re: Conlang Typology Survey

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Thursday, May 22, 2003, 13:01
En réponse à Tristan McLeay :


>Any post about Maggel is a good one! (The other-persons-conlang I like >the most :) )
Thanks! I'll post something about Maggel pronouns soon :) .
>I'm not sure what you mean by these construction state things. What are >they?
Like in Hebbrew, in possessive constructions it is the possessed word which receives a special form rather than the possessor. Also, like in Hebbrew again, the noun in construct case never receives the article. It's the opposite of the genitive case if you prefer. A Maggel example: biirh ['bIx_j] (n): dog. ragft ['r\a~N] (f): women (the base form of feminine nouns is always the plural). So to the translate "the woman's dog" or "a woman's dog" (Maggel doesn't distinguish between those two), one says: hbiirh an rin ['DIx_j @~n 'r\E~] (|rin| is the singular form of |ragft|, |an| is the article, mandatory in this construction). As you see, the construction consists in adding the possessor in no special form (well, not completely true, since the article must always be in its |an| form even in front of a consonant, where it's normally |a|, but that doesn't really count) to a special form of the possessed word. So the construct state of |biirh|: 'dog' is |hbiirh|: 'dog of'.
>>So far as I can tell it is a. > >Now that's a real cop-out answer :)
LOL. The thing is, since the Maggel conjugational system loves to use periphrastic forms where both the subject and object become prepositional phrases, it's difficult to be more precise :)) . But syntactically Maggel is nominative/accusative IIRC.
>Sounds vaguely like Pidse (crap I give myself too much work...). Maybe >horrible orthographies are related to horrible tense systems?
LOL.
>How does that one work, then? I don't see any relationship between >spelling and pronunciation :)
Yeah, but you're just as insane as I am, so it doesn't count ;)))) . And would you be insane enough to guess that the 1st person singular masculine proximate initial form pronoun written |eu| is actually pronounced [da]? ;)))) (and that its non-initial subject form is still written |eu| but pronounced [Ue], and its non-initial non-subject form is written |eudft|, but this time still pronounced [Ue]? ;)))) ) Christophe Grandsire. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.

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Tristan McLeay <kesuari@...>
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