Re: "Proposed IPA" characters not in Unicode

On Jan 18, 2007, at 8:51 AM, John Vertical wrote:

> Paul Bennett wrote:
>> However, I discovered last night, while rolling these posts around
>> in my  mind, that I can produce a velar trill (though it sounds
>> *horrible*) and  thus a labiovelar trill. Making that into a
>> doubly-articulated flap/tap  might take work, but I think it might
>> be worth it...
>
> Are you sure it's a strictly velar trill, not a velarized uvular
> trill or some sort of a gargle effect? It's not supposed to be
> possible to trill the dorsum. Makes me wonder why the IPA still
> leaves the palatal trill as "possible but not attestested" tho.
What's being trilled, then, when you pronounce a uvular trill? (I've
never been clear on why some languages have a uvular trill or
fricative or approximant but not a velar one.)