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Re: YADPT (D=Dutch)

From:Jean-François Colson <bn130627@...>
Date:Sunday, November 9, 2003, 9:42
Tristan McLeay wrote

> > > I guess the [w] > [v] would've been excluded after consonants > > > too? > > > > No. [w] exists in Dutch only in word- or syllable-final positions, and > > AFAICT it is always representated by /uw/. Normally, /uw/ is the second > > half of a diphthong, the first half being /a/, /ee/, /ie/, or /o/. > > When /uw/ is not preceded by a vowel, /u/ assumes the role of "first
half".
> > Well, something's fishy, because it's _definitely_ [i:n] and [twi:] in > Mum/Oma/Harrie/Mien's dialect. I've heard the words enough that they sound > normal and [e:n] and [tve:] funny :) (I remember noting that twee sounded > like three; it's unlikely I would've thought that if it'd been [tve:].)
For what I remember my grand-mother (84 y. old) who learned a bit of Dutch from her own grand-mother near Leuven (Belgium, Vlaams Brabant) uses [i:n] [twi:] [drai] (I don't remember what her <r> and her <a> are in Dutch). Is it correct to pronounce [e:n] [twe:] [dri:] as I always did? Jean-François Colson jfcolson (a) belgacom.net

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