Re: YADPT (D=Dutch)
From: | Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> |
Date: | Sunday, November 9, 2003, 15:11 |
Quoting Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>:
> En réponse à Jan van Steenbergen :
>
>
> >No no, it is [e:n] and [tve:].
>
> I rarely hear [tve:] (and being fond of the cluster voiceless consonant+[v]
> so common in Esperanto, I know what I'm talking about :)) ). It's usually
> [twe:] (especially in Flanders) or [tv\e:], even from people who claim that
> they pronounce a pure [v]. The difference is quite striking :)) .
Doesn't [tv_0e:] occur? I seem to recall that at least some varieties of Low
German has _twee_ [tv_0eI], but I may be wrong.
In my book, [tv] and [tv\] are both abominable clusters, but then I've heard
the Dutch consistently voice their voiced stops, so what can you expect? :)
Andreas
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