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Re: YADPT (D=Dutch)

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Sunday, November 9, 2003, 15:46
En réponse à Andreas Johansson :


>Doesn't [tv_0e:] occur?
To me, it would sound as if someone was trying to say "tvee" :))) . I've heard /v/s get unvoiced (especially above the rivers :)) . In the South it's less common), but never /w/ :)) .
> I seem to recall that at least some varieties of Low >German has _twee_ [tv_0eI], but I may be wrong.
It would be possible then that Eastern dialects of Dutch (which look more like German dialects than Dutch dialects to me :)) ) would do that then, but I must admit knowing only very little about them :(( .
>In my book, [tv] and [tv\] are both abominable clusters, but then I've heard >the Dutch consistently voice their voiced stops, so what can you expect? :)
And then there's this time I was watching TV with my friend, listening to a girl interviewed who spoke such a strange dialect of Dutch that they had to subtitle it (they do that often on Dutch TV). I then asked my friend who has a very good knowledge of Dutch dialects what dialect she spoke. I could understand pieces of what she spoke, but never the full story. He then told me: "she's speaking Swedish!". So to me now Swedish is essentially the strangest dialect of Dutch I ever heard ;))) . Christophe Grandsire. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.

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