Re: YADPT (D=Dutch)

En réponse à Jan van Steenbergen :


>No no, it is [e:n] and [tve:].
I rarely hear [tve:] (and being fond of the cluster voiceless consonant+[v] 
so common in Esperanto, I know what I'm talking about :)) ). It's usually 
[twe:] (especially in Flanders) or [tv\e:], even from people who claim that 
they pronounce a pure [v]. The difference is quite striking :)) .


>No. [w] exists in Dutch only in word- or syllable-final positions, and
>AFAICT it is always representated by /uw/. Normally, /uw/ is the second
>half of a diphthong, the first half being /a/, /ee/, /ie/, or /o/.
>When /uw/ is not preceded by a vowel, /u/ assumes the role of "first half".
Not really. True probably of your dialect, but not in general :) .


>Well, I'm not a religious person, and neither were my parents. But yes, my
>background is definitely more Protestant than Catholic.
>Whether or not Catholics prefer the term "Hollands" over "Nederlands...
>well, it seems strange to me, but I can't tell for certain. Perhaps
>Christophe can enlighten us here...
Well, *my* Jan has a Catholic background, and yet I've never heard him 
refer to Dutch as "Hollands". He uses this word to refer only to dialects 
from Zuid- or Noord-Holland. But I never paid much attention to it so maybe 
his family does that differently (he is not very representative of his 
family :)) ).

Christophe Grandsire.

http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr

You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang. 

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