Re: YADPT (D=Dutch)

En réponse à Jean-François Colson :


>Why did my Dutch teacherS always use [w] for <w>?
Probably because they are Flemish? As I said, it's the normal pronunciation 
there :)) .

>  IIRC this pronunciation is
>confirmed by the dictionary Robert & Van Dale.
That I find hard to believe, unless they are talking purely phonemically. 
Phonetically, /w/ takes on many values depending on the region, and in ABN 
[w] is certainly not the main one.

>Who uses [w]? Who uses [v]? Who uses [v\]? Is there a somewhat coherent
>repartition of all those pronunciations?
Basically, from South (Flanders) to North it goes [w]-[v\]-[v] (Brabant is 
typically in the middle and uses commonly [v\]). But there are plenty of 
places which don't follow this typical trend.

>BTW there's something similar in French. In standard French <w> is
>pronounced [w] in some words (week-end, watt, willien, western...) and [v]
>in others (wagon, weber, wisigoth, wagnérisme...).
Basically, since "w" exists only in borrowings, it is pronounced as it was 
in the original language. So borrowings from English have the [w] 
pronunciation, while borrowings from German have the [v] pronunciation. Of 
course, some people mix them :)) .

>In Belgian French [w] is used everywhere.
Is it because Germanophones are closer there, so that you want to separate 
strongly from them? :)))

Christophe Grandsire.

http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr

You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang. 

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