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Re: Romanized Orthography of My Conlang

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Friday, October 22, 1999, 19:14
Ed Heil wrote:
> Oh, surely "reheat" is /ri$hit/ and "singing" is /siN$iN/ where $ is > syllable division, no?
Perhaps, but it seems rather artificial to say draw syllable-boundaries that way. The only way I know of to indicate objectively syllable-boundaries is that English vowels are short before syllable-final voiceless obstruents (/sit/ vs. /si:/ or /si:d/)
> given facts (a) (b) and (c), are they allophones or not, and why?
Well, I'd consider them allophones, assuming that they are truly in complementary distribution, for the same reason that I consider [@] and [V] to be seperate phonemes, despite the fact that they seem different and are diachronically different. [@] comes from reduction of other vowels, while [V] comes from, if I'm not mistaken, [u] or perhaps [U] in certain contexts. That is, phones are allophones if they are phonetically similar AND in complementary distribution. But, then again, if phonemes exist in the brain, then the perception of *monolingual* speakers (thus excluding those who perceive a difference because they have learned a language that uses that difference phonemically) that they are different indicate that they are stored as separate entities in the brain? That would make some sense in the case of [@]/[V], perhaps [@] isn't even stored as a phoneme, but merely as a rule that vowels become that in certain contexts, so that "democracy" is stored as /dImAkr&si/? But, this seems rather artificial ... -- "Cats are rather delicate creatures and they are subject to a good many ailments, but I never heard of one who suffered from insomnia." -- Joseph Wood Krutch http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/X-Files/ http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/Books.html ICQ #: 18656696 AIM screen-name: NikTailor