Re: Mandarin demonstratives (Re: Charyan novel! (was: Re: [CONLANG] I'm back!))

 --- "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh@...> wrote:

> It would sound
> extremely weird if you said
>         tua3 gua4-e chi1 peng2
>
> Acceptable usage of the possessive is when you say
> things like
>         tua3 gua4-e chu3
>         at   my     house.
> But definitely not in the former case.
>
> [Note: _hi1_ in my idiolect might be a contraction
> of _hia1_ or _hia4_??
> Anyway, it's a clipped tone, sorry I just can't sort
> out those tone
> numbers :-P  I think I really need to dig through
> those old emails where
> Douglas Koller & I sorted out those tone numbers,
> and get it firmly down
> in my memory.]
>
> [*Note: I'm not sure what's the right orthographic
> representation of the
> -e genitive marker; but it's pronounced [E:], tone 3
> (or was it a clipped
> tone? I can't get those clipped tone numbers
> straight).]
>
>
> T
If your native language is not a tone language, you
can just image when you sing a song, every syllable
you may utter in 8 different ways. That's tone. The
example is in sentence "You can help me, can't you?"
.The first 'can' sound like 4th tone of mandarin while
the last 'can('t)' sound like 3rd tone.
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