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Re: The Lord's Prayer, a translation exercise

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Monday, July 15, 2002, 22:42
Ray Brown wrote:
> Yep - this can certainly be a problem if a conlang is attached to a > con-culture.
Mine, for example, has no word for "father", except for the rather technical term _nlannani_ which is literally something like "co-mother". They'd probably translate it as "Our mother in the divine abode ..." No word for "kingdom" either, but there is a general word that can mean "state, empire, nation, kingdom, etc.", basically any independent political unit. They might use that, but it would probably sound strange. There wouldn't be much problem otherwise in translating it, but the whole prayer would certainly strike them as odd. It's not up to the Divinities to forgive or condemn, or to provide for your everyday needs. They'll provide the rain and sun and so forth, but you have to do the work of raising the crops yourself. :-) Of course, much of Christianity would strike them as odd, so that's not so much a problem.
> But Christian missionaries have had similar problems to these
Any Christian missionary to the Kassi would at least have the advantage of a culture that already believes in a single (impersonal) creator goddess. They'd just have to convince them that they have direct access to the Creator, and that (s)he's not as impersonal as they'd believed. In fact, I suspect that some of the heretical offshoots of the later Imperial age might well include one that involves a belief in a direct connection to a not-so-impersonal Goddess.
> BTW the Greek words traditionally translated as "to sin" and "sin" are: > hamartánein = to miss the mark [in spear throwing], to fail in one's > purpose, to go wrong > hamartía = failure, error
Interesting! -- "There's no such thing as 'cool'. Everyone's just a big dork or nerd, you just have to find people who are dorky the same way you are." - overheard ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42

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