> This is my understanding:
>
> Proto-Germanic German Old-English English
> aw aw e:@ i:
>
> example:
> *strawm- /Strawm/ /stre:@m/ /stri:m/
>
> a: aj a: o:
>
> example:
> *sta:n- /Stajn/ /sta:n/ /sto:n/
>
> u: /aw/ /u:/ /aw/
>
> example:
> *mu:s /maws/ /mu:s/ /maws/
>
> Elliott Lash
>
>
> --- Roger Mills <romilly@...> wrote:
> > Rob Haden wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Here's a question:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what's behind the vowel
> > differences between German and
> > > English cognates? For example, German "Beide"
> vs.
> > English "both," "ueber"
> > > vs. "over," etc.? I saw these words in Estel
> > Telcontar's message and they
> > > inspired me to ask this question.
> > >
> > It's due to "Great Vowel Shifts" in both Engl. and
> > German. There's probably
> > a table of it somewhere; I suspect it's all rather
> > irregular.
> >
> > Offhand, _beide-both_ looks similar to
> _Stein-stone_
> > which IIRC comes from
> > Germanic *[long a].
> >
> > I do know that Gmc *[long u] diphthongized > aw in
> > both: Haus-house,
> > Maus-mouse et al., but then there's the peculiar
> > correspondence in--
> > Germ. Straum - Du. stroom - Eng. stream
> > Traum - droom - dream
> > Baum - boom - beam etc.
> > and I don't recall what that reflects. As you can
> > see, the Germ. GVS was
> > different from the Engl. GVS.
>
>
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