Re: EAK - two problems
From: | R A Brown <ray@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:38 |
Philip Newton wrote:
> On 5/22/07, Eric Christopherson <rakko@...> wrote:
>
>> It feels strange to me how the possessive marker doesn't always
>> attach to the head, but I'm not exactly sure what feels wrong about
>> that; I know there are clitics in other languages that don't always
>> attach to heads.
>
> Don't some Latin clitics (e.g. -que) work like this, too, always
> attaching to the first part of the second component rather than the
> "main" part, whatever that is?
They do.
[snip]
>
> As Ray said, one difference was that you could add -io not only to
> _to_ but also to arbitrary other elements, such as indefinite nouns,
> adjectives modifying such nouns, or pronouns. With _tou_ you couldn't
> do that, unless the rationale was to add -u always, or something like
> that.
True.
> So _to-io_ looks more like article+clitic (or other particle) to me,
That's what I was hoping :)
> while _tou_ looks more like an inflected word (at least
> diachronically). Even if _to-io_ is related diachronically to an
> inflected _toio_.
Exactly my feelings.
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Philip Newton wrote:
> On 5/22/07, R A Brown <ray@...> wrote:
>
>> But am worried that -io might appear to be an inflexion, even in the way
>> I suggested using it. Your observation seem to confirm my misgivings. Oh
>> well, back to the drawing board ;)
>
> Oh dear!
>
> Oh well; as the Germans say, "Don't let the head hang". (Or, more
> idiomatically, "Don't let your head hang"; i.e. "don't give up, don't
> be discouraged".)
No - and after reading your remarks above, I may not go back to the
drawing board at all ;)
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