Re: Interbeing

----- Original Message -----
From: "Padraic Brown" <agricola@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Interbeing


> Am 17.02.02, Joe Hill yscrifef:
>
> > > Goueth il bards gouer y nevulles in ce seu papeir; persque sen
> >
> > Interesting language...It looks Celtic, but it's obviously
Romance...well
> > done!
>
> Got it in one. Romance with Celtic influence.
>
> I suppose an interlinear is in order, since everyone else was
> kind enough to provide me with one!
>
> Goueth il  bards gouer y   nevulles in ce  seu papeir;
> sees   the poet  true  the clouds   in the his paper
>
> persque sen     ces nevulles, cressa ne bellet unill;
> for     without the clouds    grow   no trees  any-at-all
>
> et enound   cressa ne bellet spech,     fachteor ne papeir ser.
> &  at-where grow   no trees  any-at-all is-made  no paper  any
>
> Hos modd, il  papeir ach y   nevoul consont. Ne  tens cuech  ty
> thus      the paper  and the clouds interare not have a-peep thou
>
> le  moutil 'conesser' ny     teu dixtcieoneir; iveri, credhem eo
> the word   'interbe'  in-the thy dictionary    indeed believe I
>
> ke   deus   ystar    ce la,   per ce  cest raison partichoeleir.
> that should to-stand it there for the this reason very
>
> Note the subjunctive (cressa) for conditions unreal or uncertain;
> and that the verb is singular with a plural noun. Lots of nice
> negative particles here: unill (a chip, as of wood), ser
> (leaf/sheet, as of paper), cuech (peep, as in muttum nullum).
> They can all be translated as "not" or "no"; but the original is
> much more onomotopoetic: "no chip of a tree grows"; "not a slip
> of paper is made", etc. There are perhaps a score or so of these
> particles each of which can be used with semantically associated
> verbs or nouns: outh (drop) with verbs of flowing, drinking,
> raining, bleeding, etc.; cuech (peep) with verbs of speaking,
> singing, playing musical instruments, etc. Note "fachteor", a
> proper -r passive. "Hos modd" is a terrible agglomeration of a
> usually emphatic pronoun + a Brithenig borrowed noun; and tends
> to replace the much more poetic "perceren". Even worse than
> bastard word combinations is the oh so horrid tetragraph _xtci_
> found in "il dixtcieoneirs". The whole of it is [S], so what's a
> few extra letters? :) Deus < defs < L. debet; you still often
> find "defs", though.
>
> Padraic.
So...'y' is Feminine, and 'le' is masculine?


Anyhow...could you help me with my semi-natlang, as you seem to have made a
succesful one.  How do you succesfully 'influence' languages?

I'm intending to make

a) a Celto-Germanic language, predominantly germanic, based on Old English
(or Eald Englisc :-) ) , with Scots Gaelic influence.

b) a Romano-Germanic language, predominantly Romance, based on French,
influenced by Old English.

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