Re: Gz^rod|in (Grammar : adjectives & misc)
|From:||Adrian Morgan <morg0072@...>|
|Date:||Thursday, March 16, 2000, 1:28|
Christophe Grandsire wrote, quoting myself:
> >There is a form of an adjective (the relevant
> >suffix is -l or -ll) that means that the item
> >gained the adjective as a consequence of the
> >main verb. For example the word 'g^nenyaral'
> >means, (adj) "that ceased to be the object of
> >desire because of the event this sentence
> >describes". I want to know what a good name for
> >this form would be. In my notes I call it the
> >"byverbial" form of an adjective because it
> >is attributed _by_ the _verb_.
> Quite an idea! I don't know if I ever saw that
> in any natlang (or any other conlang that I
> know of) but I like the idea. As for a good
> name, I think yours is already nice. But let
> me think: an adjective representing the final
> state of an item due to the action represented
> by the verb... a verbo-consecutive adjective?
> Nah, doesn't work right...
Well, seeing as most word forms are named in
Latin, I was hoping that someone who knew a
little Latin could suggest something. _byverbial_
bugs me because of the English word _by_.
I'm still thinking it may be best to drop the
en- prefix on byverbial adjectives derived from
verbs and to maintain the rule against
byverbials of adjectives meaning 'to be the
subject of <verb>'.
This would change _enyaral_ to _yaral_, etc.
However, what about negatives? I'm thinking
that the en- might be retained when the negative
is formed, so that _yaral_ and _g^nenyaral_
would be opposites.
Anyway, enough musings. It was a long day
yesterday partly because the Flinders University
email proxy crashed and partly because I went
out for tea on account of my parents having
got back from an overseas holiday. So I'm still
a little tired, and I'd like to wait until
tomorrow before putting forward the next segment
of my language for review.