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Re: My first translation in Moten! Champagne for all!

From:Tom Wier <artabanos@...>
Date:Thursday, June 3, 1999, 22:47
Kristian Jensen wrote:

> Nik Taylor wrote: > >Besides, why should the cultural factor stand in the way? The > >Bible has been translated successfully in countless languages, in > >cultures very different from the Ancient Hebrews. > > True! But these translations are intended for the Christian converts > or minorities in these various cultures - converts who would > understand the bible and the culture that Christianity represents. > > If we wanted a demonstration of a language in its pure form, I don't > think the bible would work. In a bible translation, certain loans > (both lexical and cultural) would be needed for the proper > interpretation of the bible. The translation of the bible would not > and cannot demonstrate the language of a non-christian culture in > its pure form.
While it's certainly true that some aspects of the Bible require a certain mindset or view of the world (like the idea of a personal God, which many Chinese, for example, would probably find wholly alien), I don't think that reflects much in the story of the Tower of Babel itself. The only real term there I could foresee posing any problem for translation into a different culture is "God", for reasons like I just mentioned, but other than that, there should be no problem with "tower" or "brick" and such. Plus, I'd think that stories about excessive pride are fairly universal in the human experience, so that shouldn't pose a problem for Conlangers unless the conlangs are specificly designed for nonhumans, in which case it could be a problem, depending on how the specific nonhuman culture is structured. On the whole, I'd have to agree with Nik, that just about any text you find will have some cultural bias, and the Babel text is as good as any. Just my two cents. :) =========================================== Tom Wier <artabanos@...> AIM: Deuterotom ICQ: 4315704 <http://www.angelfire.com/tx/eclectorium/> "Cogito ergo sum, sed credo ergo ero." ===========================================