Betreft: Re: Initial clusters, was: Re: Russian orthography

>>> Vasiliy Chernov <bc_@...> 02/01 7:42  >>>
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:24:13 -0500, John Cowan
<jcowan@...> wrote:

> Or, of course, Georgian:  my favorite Georgian name is
> "Mgrvgrvladje"
>In the neighboring Armenian names like Mkrtchyan are by no means
>monosyllabic.
<snips>

May I join in?

For some time I have been obsessed by words with geat consonant-
clusters. I have collected some that I 'll share with you.
Sometimes I give lectures on Amerindian languages to Dutch and
Spanish people and start with making them pronounce these
words, thus indicating how different these languages are.

Here they are:
Sechelt (Salishan):
q_0ls-stx_0_c^x_0   'you make him cook diner' (-stx_0 =causative)
c'lp'-stx_0-c^x_0   'you make him pinch'
            c^=c hachek
Heiltsuk
sl-q'  'kind of fish' ('stokvis' in Dutch, I don't know the Engilsh equivalent)
            l- = barred l
Bella Coola
qqs  'eye'

Klallam
l-q'c^s^l-nát    'friday'  ('fifth day')
            l-=barred l

Also a nice sentence to pronounce:
?u? ?@y' ?u? cx_0

I don't know how the syllables are. In Sechelt I hear a schwa before the [l]

Also nice because of the tones:
Quiotepec Chinantec:
m?1  'ant'
m:23  'sandal'
hm?3  'tomato'
?m:3m?4  'you (pl) pinch'
m:42m?m24  'we (excl) pinch'


I know that Serbokroat have syllabic /r/ too:
crn  'black'

Has anyone more examples of spectacular Zungenbrecher?

Rob