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Re: Prepositional phrases

From:daniel andreasson <daniel.andreasson@...>
Date:Tuesday, March 27, 2001, 20:37
Làtae Matthew Pearson:

> > Out of the forest: my thaure > > in-ABL forest-OBL
> Itaul lokau -- "The(ABL) forest-ABL" > Itaul himau loka -- "The(ABL) interior-ABL forest" > Ite' ysmai loka -- "The(DAT) exterior-DAT forest" > > (There's probably a slight difference in meaning between these > last two expressions, but I haven't worked out what it is yet...)
Perhaps it might be a difference of focus. _Itaul himau loka_ could focus on being / having been inside the forest, and _ite' ysmai loka_ might focus on the fact that you finally get out of the forest. On a more general comment on the prepositional system of Tokana, I must say it's absolutely brilliant. It's so neat and pure. And seems to depend a great deal on context. Very natlangy! I like it. :)
> > Does anyone know anything about natlangs that use locative > > nouns? Or have ideas about how to simplify my system?
> Locative nouns are common among Mayan languages (e.g., Tzotzil), > and are also found in Oto-Manguean languages (e.g., Mixtec, > Zapotec).
A friend of mine claims that there are locative nouns in some Bantu languages. Most people seem to classify these as a class of their own, but I think my friend has a point. (His name is Niklas Edenmyr and his BA-thesis is called _Locative nouns in four Bantu languages_. I doubt you'll find it, but you might want to look at the nouns in class 16, 17, 18 and 23 in LuGanda, KiSwahili, IsiZulu and TshiVenda.) ||| daniel -- <> "Lea eica waenaidh mae bwochath waenë, <> <> ja jordhëchaidh mae gothëje jordhëchë." <> <> www.geocities.com/conlangus <> <> daniel.andreasson@telia.com <>

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