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Re: Second report on Koni'

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Friday, March 28, 2003, 8:43
Quoting Garth Wallace <gwalla@...>:

> Isaac Penzev wrote: > > Christophe Grandsire ikrih: > > > > > >>En réponse à Isaac Penzev <isaacp@...>:
> >>In the South, usually /f/ is [f], /v/ is [v] and /w/ is [v\] or [w] or > [v] > >>depending on position. More in the North, at least according to Irina > Rempt > > > > and > > > >>my own ears tend to agree, /f/ is [f], /w/ is [v] and /v/ is lax [f] > (I don't > >>know how IPA would mark that, [v_0] perhaps), so the difference > between /f/ > >>and /v/ would be a tense-lax distinction. Do you think it would fit > what your > >>ears tell you? :) > > > > > > It would. So it's North. I hear it the way you say. A propos, can you > then > > explain me this tense-lax distinction? I'm especially interested > because it may > > help me to describe better the Ukrainian phoneme /v/ whose main > allophone is > > definitely different from Russian [v] (which is the same as in French, > I > > believe), but surely not [w] which occurs only before consonants and > in > > auslaut. > > I thought lax/tense distinctions only applied to vowels.
A distinction between of high vs low muscular tension during the production of consonants may be termed a fortis vs lenis distinction. In at least my variety of Swedish, it's the primary distinction between /f/ and /v/ (in addition, /v/ is often more-or-less voiced, whereas /f/ is always unvoiced). Andreas