Re: Looking for a case: counting

Merhaba!

Christophe wrote:

"You look like those people of the Encyclopédie who classified languages as
"straight-going" and "retrograde" depending on whether they went "in the
direction of the thought process", and "against the thought process". Of
course, to be "straight-going", a language had to have SVO word order, relative
clauses after the nouns they complete, adjectives usually following nouns, i.e.
be like French. So they thought that everybody thought in French, and languages
that didn't follow French rules went "against the thought process". We luckily
know better nowadays."

Ah yes, that sort of thing. Remember the time when Breton and Occitan (etc.) were
considered dialects of French. Absolutely crazy... next thing you'll know
they'd've classified Arabic as a French dialect, or Mandarin, or Mapuche or
Chuckchi (or did they do that already?)... :(((

Oh yeah, and that theory about how the 'primitiveness' of a culture reflects on
the language. Mark Rosenfelder(?) pointed out that some Australian languages
are quite complex.

Finally, my two cents on-topic: 'with the hammer' and 'many times' are the same thing.
Or are they? 'many times' represents frequentative aspect... and 'with a
hammer' represents an instrumental oblique (but same with 'many times'). So
yes, they are the same thing - they both modify the verb.

--Trebor