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Re: Wav files and conlang and like pronunciation?

From:Sally Caves <scaves@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 8:24
Well, I lied!  I said I was going to go away, and here I am, back
on a wave of obsession and enthusiasm!  I didn't see this post
of And's, and have to respond to it... especially as it speaks to
me!  <GGGGGGG>

And Rosta wrote:

> I excitedly played some of Herman's music to my spouse, assuming she'd > be as wowed as I was, but she said "Oh God, how horrible! What on > earth's that! It's a cacophony!"
When I played it in Florida, it was remarked by many to be quite beautiful. (That was where I "outed" myself and the list!) <G>
> > He's got sixteen tone scales, I believe, which is what gives his > > Porcupine Opera such a strange twang. And the minor quality of his > > Starling Song is enhanced by a really powerful echo, edited in. My > > work is much more consciously European... I hate to say Celtic, but > > it's an influence! > > I definitely agree about the sounding European. i bet you could play > them to anyone not on this list & they'd be guaranteed to take it > for authentic folk songs from somewhere in Europe. As for the Celticness, > Teonaht has a welshy sound, but not so much the music itself, though > I would only reveal my ignorance were I to venture to identify > the European home of its closest musical cousin.
Hmmm. I don't know about Welsh... I have always been disappointed that there weren't nearly so many Welsh groups doing what Irish groups were doing: playing traditional Celtic melodies on traditional Celtic instruments with lots of open fifths and transitions into the minor key. I associate Welsh music with Rhondda Valley Men's choirs; with Methodist Hymnals; with "Men of Harlech" and "Mae'r Hen Wlad fy Nhadau"; with penaethlion singing-- gads, I can't even remember how to spell it--I've been too long away, I guess: that singing that is extempore and done to accompaniment. Are you saying my melodies sound like that? <G> I mean, these are nice, but they are *definitely* not my models! :-) There's something sort of nineteenth century and earnest and full-throated about Welsh music that is not... what I usually aim for. Especially its adoption of English/continental melody patterns and an eschewal of older authentic Celtic patterns. But, you know, Vul Vampin is a bit of a tease... it's supposed to be slightly humorous and folksy-sounding. With a little wobble into the minor key at the end of each stanza.
> BTW, how did you record the songs. There's one where it sounds like > you're singing to prerecorded music, and another where there seems > to be a piano and a violin.
I have two accompanied pieces, both of which I recorded on a cheap cassette sitting on top of my Kurzweil. Amo ro hsera is a capella. Vul Vampin and Tyel al Hea are accompanied by yours truly, the latter set, I believe, to piano, vibes, and violin. Simple chords that I wouldn't screw up on too badly under pressure! <G> Thanks for asking! Happy holidays, And. ============================================================ SALLY CAVES scaves@frontiernet.net http://www.frontiernet.net/~scaves/teoreal.html ===================================================================== Niffodyr tweluenrem lis teuim an. "The gods have retractible claws." from _The Gospel of Bastet_ ============================================================