Re: Genitives NPs as Relative Clauses

From: "Keith Gaughan" <kmgaughan@...>
>In my (English) idiolect, it's not uncommon for me to use genitive
>constructions
>in the place of relative clauses. Example:
>
>     My idiolect:      ...of my seeing...
>
>Ok, here's my question. I've been thinking of adapting this idiom for use in
>Erëtas but I have doubts as to its scalability. Are there any other languages
>that use similar constructions. Just for reference's sake, here's how I intend
>on representing direct and indirect relative clauses:
>
>     Direct relative clause (`that I see'):
>         ...of my seeing...
>
>     Indirect relative clauses (`that sees me'):
>         ...with my seeing...
>
>Thoughts? Could it work well?
Well, such a thing is possible in Hadwan:

    nirai sci waidjócos
    /ni"rAI "stsI wAIdzu:"tsos/

        nir.ai   sci    waidj.ó     .c  .os
        man.INTR be-3SG see  .TR-1SG.GER.GEN

    "It is the man of my seeing" / "It is the man that I see"

I wouldn't be surprised to see it..
As for the other...

    *nír sci waidjaicidj honj
    "it is the man with my seeing" / "it is the man that sees me"

That doesn't sound right.  You might actually say:

    nirai sci waidjitcos mí
    /ni"rAI "stsI wAIdzIt"tsos "mi:/

        nir.ai   sci    waidj.ic    .c  .os  mí
        man.INTR be-3SG see  .TR-3SG.GER.GEN me.ACC

    "it is the man of his seeing me" / "it is the man that sees me"

But I'm a little rusty on the grammar to be sure.

    *Muke!

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