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Re: Question about Romlangs/CeltiConlangs

From:Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>
Date:Monday, August 19, 2002, 20:32
Thank you guys for your answers. They are really helpful.
By the way, can your languages be admired somewhere on the web? I managed to
download complete grammars of Brithenig and Breathanach, but about Kerno and
Judajca in particular I could find almost nothing.

--- Padraic wrote:

> Indeed. It's a peculiar branch of the Art, and I think > in many ways more of a challenge than a priori > conlanging. Particularly if you try to do what Andrew > did and make a historically plausible Romancelang.
That’s exactly what I am trying to do. But I must admit that my history bending easily become history violation to make it historically acceptible.
> The only words I can think of that are actually priori > are "quimpeor" (fancy), "gouach" (cry of pain) and "grouex" (grrrr!).
LOL
> While the passive in -r barely exists in Gaelic (I > think), its Latin descendant has taken new territories > in Kerno.
I thought Kerno (or Kernu? I have seen both) was based rather on Cornish? --- Steg Belsky wrote:
> Well, i haven't really worked on Judajca (Judean Romance) that much, but > i have added a-priori elements into the soundshifts that occur. The > variety of Vulgar Latin that was influenced by Hebrew and Aramaic to form > Judajca already had a few sound changes that occured before the Semitic > influence began, for instance the shift of syllable-final /r/ and /l/ to > /l/ and /w/, respectively, as well as a tendency to voice intervocalic > /s/ (which then, under influence from the NW Semitic /t/ > [s] > softeneing, shifts to /S/) and devoice non-intervocalic /w/ (/w/ and /W/ > then later shift to /v/ and /f/). Also an erosion of the ends of words > was involved, including the |-is| at the end of genetives, as well as the > final vowels of verb infinitives. > Most of the a-posteriori changes are attempts to fit a Romance language > into a Hebrew/Aramaic phonological system, as well as grammatical changes > (like the development of the nom. and gen. cases into non-construct and > construct) to make it work more like the Semitic adstrate influence.
Same question. I am really eager to see more of the language. Cheers, Jan ===== "Originality is the art of concealing your source." - Franklin P. Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Padraic Brown <elemtilas@...>
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