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Re: Heavy Metal Phonation

From:william drewery <will65610@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 17:27
> > > > > > > > At any rate, Rammstein's > > singer(s) seem to use [S] for it an awful lot > (that's on topic isn't > > it?). (At least especially in the song 'Ich Will', > which sounds more > > like 'Isch Will' to me.) > > *nods* common in some dialects. I'd associated it > (i.e. [S] for > standard [ç]) with Saxony, off-hand. > > Though now I think about it, I think some parts of > western and > south-western Germany have also merged /S/ and /ç/ > -- Kirche "church" > and Kirsche "cherry" both sound like the latter word > --, which leads > to problems when they try to speak "properly" (i.e. > introduce [ç] into > their speech) and hypercorrect (e.g. talking about > "friche Fiche" > instead of "frische Fische"). > > Cheers, > -- > Philip Newton <philip.newton@...> >
In a similar vein, just this last weekend I was watching Nascar with my roommate, and this Country singer did the Star Spangled Banner. Interestingly, she sang *spaN-Neld* instead of *spaN-geld*. There also seems to be a general tendency towards lenition of voiced stops in American popular music, and voiceless stops often become unaspirate, even when initial. Final nasals are often not pronounced at all, instead the vowel is nasalized as in French speech. I think it has to do with trying to keep a steady stream of air going. But in other contexts, I've heard ejective initial stops in words the vocalist wanted to emphasize--but in American *speech* it seems more common to use retroflex or geminate for emphasis. Travis __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail