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Re: Disgusting thread... ;-)

From:Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>
Date:Friday, November 12, 2004, 19:33
 --- Pascal A. Kramm skrzypszy:

> >I should probably add that I live in the Netherlands, too. In the > >town of Zaandam, to be precise. > > Doesn't say me anything... could you name any major town that's > close to it? (Eindhoven, Venlo, Nijmegen ...)
Amsterdam. Zaandam is immediately Northwest of Amsterdam.
> >I sort of knew that; actually, I was wondering about the city. I'm > >a regular guest in the Ruhrgebiet myself, because my mother-in-law > >lives in Essen. > > That's just a cat jump from where I live, Dortmund.
Indeed. As a matter of fact, I have some very close friends in Dortmund whom I always visit when in Germany. Next time I'll go there I'll let you know. --- Philip Newton skrzypszy:
> > That with the y being vowel was clear, but there are still two > > very nasty consonant clusters left: "skrz" and "psz". > > Wenedyk uses Polish spelling, basically, where |rz| and |sz| are > digraphs for /Z/ and /S/, respectively. With devoicing after > unvoiced stops, I'd say that those two are /skS/ and /pS/, > respectively, which are not quite as daunting IMO -- the second > even occurs in German, e.g. in "grapschen" or (for me, at least) > "hübsch".
Hole in one, again! All I can add is that |skrz|, normally indeed pronounced /skS/, in some (particularly southern) dialects sounds rather like /SkS/. Jan ===== "If you think you are too small to make a difference, try sleeping in a closed room with a mosquito." ___________________________________________________________ Moving house? Beach bar in Thailand? New Wardrobe? Win £10k with Yahoo! Mail to make your dream a reality. Get Yahoo! Mail