Re: Disgusting thread... ;-)
|From:||Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>|
|Date:||Friday, November 12, 2004, 19:33|
--- Pascal A. Kramm skrzypszy:
> >I should probably add that I live in the Netherlands, too. In the
> >town of Zaandam, to be precise.
> Doesn't say me anything... could you name any major town that's
> close to it? (Eindhoven, Venlo, Nijmegen ...)
Amsterdam. Zaandam is immediately Northwest of Amsterdam.
> >I sort of knew that; actually, I was wondering about the city. I'm
> >a regular guest in the Ruhrgebiet myself, because my mother-in-law
> >lives in Essen.
> That's just a cat jump from where I live, Dortmund.
Indeed. As a matter of fact, I have some very close friends in
Dortmund whom I always visit when in Germany. Next time I'll go there
I'll let you know.
--- Philip Newton skrzypszy:
> > That with the y being vowel was clear, but there are still two
> > very nasty consonant clusters left: "skrz" and "psz".
> Wenedyk uses Polish spelling, basically, where |rz| and |sz| are
> digraphs for /Z/ and /S/, respectively. With devoicing after
> unvoiced stops, I'd say that those two are /skS/ and /pS/,
> respectively, which are not quite as daunting IMO -- the second
> even occurs in German, e.g. in "grapschen" or (for me, at least)
Hole in one, again! All I can add is that |skrz|, normally indeed
pronounced /skS/, in some (particularly southern) dialects sounds
rather like /SkS/.
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