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Re: French

From:Erbrice <erbrice@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 23:13
thank you very much for your post ! (ich bin also kein Untermensch !!
-I say it with humor but at the beginning it was a real slap in my
froggy face)

could you clear :      ":D"  ;  not everyone's cup of joe  ?

Le 20 janv. 09 à 20:35, Paul Kershaw a écrit :

>> From: Michael Poxon <mike@...> >> Surely the problems are many - if someone posted in Swahili, most >> of the group >> would have no idea what the post was about, and surely that >> defeats the whole >> purpose of a discussion group. If most of us don't understand >> something, how can >> we discuss it? The clue's in the word! :-) >> There's also the problem of elitism - it may be just intuition, >> but I suspect >> that some people have felt "out in the cold" with the French >> thread since their >> French wasn't up to it. >> Mike > > I wouldn't say two problems are "many." ;) > > Problem the first: Sure, it's a discussion group. If someone posted > in Swahili, then only the people who could read Swahili (of which > there are many in the world, but probably few on this list) would > be able to comment. The poster wouldn't get many useful comments, > and would quickly find themselves switching to a more common > language. As to the language currently under dispute, French, there > are apparently quite a few people on this list who read French > (myself included, although slowly). The discussion doesn't include > everyone, but enough people on the list to keep it flowing. Many of > us who can read French can't write it well enough to justify doing > so, so those responses are in English. Unless there's sufficient > critical mass of French posting to keep it going, eventually the > French posters will revert back to English. Problem solved by > linguistic democracy. :D > > Problem the second: Again, recall how this issue started in the > first place: Someone whose native language wasn't English was told, > in barely more political words, that his English was substandard > and that he ought to write in French. Little seems more blatantly > elitist to me than to suggest to someone that they oughtn't post in > an English-only forum until their language skills are up to snuff, > because some people won't be able to work out what's meant. My > point being, I think there's a good flow of linguistic elitism in > multiple directions. > > Personally, I think it's cool to have posts in languages other than > English show up in my inbox. :D If it's a language I have some > knowledge of (French, German, or Spanish), I'll have a go at > reading it. If it isn't, I'll skip to the next post. I realize > that's not everyone's cup of joe, so whatev. I'm not planning on > posting in any natural language other English, so it doesn't matter > that much to me, I just don't think it's any more elitist to carry > on a conversation in some other language than it is to tell someone > to say it in French because their English is incomprehensible. > > (Also, to keep my third noted problem in the mix: It's certainly > possible that two people who speak a language that nobody else on > this list speaks could carry on an obscene dialogue insulting the > rest of the group. I'm not sure why they'd want to do such a thing, > though.) > > -- Paul


Larry Sulky <larrysulky@...>
Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Paul Kershaw <ptkershaw@...>