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Re: Depressing vocabulary for mid-June

From:Roger Mills <rfmilly@...>
Date:Friday, June 18, 2004, 21:13
Elyse Grasso wrote:

> I am "catching" or possibly "coming down with" a "cold". (Actually it may > not > be rhinovirus: mostly some sneezing and a sore throat so far, but it > doesn't > feel like allergies...)
No fun.
> > If the speakers of your languages suffer from minor ailments and > illnesses: > > Do they possess the ailment or does the ailment possess them (possibly in > demonic mode) or does the ailment just happen?
Amongst the Kash. Neither. Some ailments can occur with a semi-possessive structure-- I'm not sure where to draw the line but it includes broken limbs and other members, cuts-- injuries I guess. It does not include diseases, which one _suffers_. Thus: yale ace[mi/ti/ni] matra 'I/you/s-he has a broken leg' there.is leg[my/yr/3] broken which is pretty much parallel to yale toye[mi/ti/ni] 'I/you etc. have money' (preferred reading= I have money with me; it can mean 'I am rich' but only in context-- and discussions of one's own, or asking about another's, personal wealth is frowned upon. Contrast: me yale toye lit., to-me is money, which _does_ mean "I possess money, I'm rich"; you cannot say *me yale ace matra unless you had, perhaps, a collection of cadaver parts.............. In many cases, {dative yale X} and {yale X-poss.} are essentially equivalent. [ma/ha/ya]kena avos 'I/you/s-he suffers avos {~mange)' but yale avos+possessive would sound really strange. You could also _kena ace matra_ but I suspect it would be viewed as somehow quite serious, long-term-- perhaps a broken leg that didn't heal properly or developed complications of some sort.
> > If the speakers are human, what is a "cold" called? How strict is the > definition of the set of symptoms that count as a cold?
I see there is karimak 'to have a head-cold' as well as uçakik 'head-cold {runny nose, congestion, blahs), your basic URI
> > How do they deal with minor vs severe illnesses?
Don't know.......... Is there a recognized
> difference between illness (fevers and respiratory problems) and injury > (mechanical damage like bruises, bone fractures and bleeding) or is it all > one category?
Interesting, I hadn't really thought about this but apparently, judging from the differing verbal treatments, they see a difference.