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The lost indo-european tongue (was: the lost romance tongue)

From:yl-ruil <yl-ruil@...>
Date:Sunday, January 30, 2000, 23:10
On Sunday, January 30, Padraic Brown wrote

> >A quick example, displaying the mediopassive and the passive: > >daeros moigator, ca con illom moigamosae "Times change, and we are
> >with them". > > Neat. Is ca "we" or "and"? And is daeros from a non-IE root?
Ca is "and", a later form of "cue", from the IE *kwe (cf. the Latin clitic -que, -cue can also be used as a clitic in Aredos, but not ca). As I recall, I derived daeros from IE *di-, meaning "divide, set apart". The original sense of daeros was "hour, period of time", but it later came to mean "time in general", note that it is a singular noun "times" is daerí. A proper morphological breakdown of the phrase is: daeros = time- nominative moigator = change- present 3rd person singular mediopassive indicative ca = and con = with, by illom = it- accusative 3rd person singular moigamosae = change- present 1st person plural passive indicative. Aredos is quite a subtle language, and some things should be pointed out. The use of the mediopassive in the first verb indicates that time is changing purely for its own benifit. The secoond clause, ca con illom moigamosae, uses con "with" which has a comitative sense: we are changed not by the time, but at the same time, if we were changed _by_ the time illos would be illó, in the instrumental. The use of the passive indicates that we have no control over the happenings.
> In Tallarian, it would be: > > warta tiwas-coi, mes-pa tas-com wartere > changes times-the we-likewise them-with (are) change(d) > > T. doesn't differentiate M-P and passive. > > warta (wartim, to spin, change, twist) 3.s.pres.M-P.indic > tiwas (tiwas, day; age) > -coi (cos, the) > mes (mes, we plural) pl.nom > -pa (pa, and likewise) conjunction > tas (tas, the) > com (com, with) really takes abl., loc. or inst. but those cases > are lacking in the plural > wartere (wartim)
Is Tallarian an IE language? It certainly looks like one. Dan