USAGE: [e] vs. [E] (was Re: Two questions about Esperanto)
|From:||Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>|
|Date:||Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 15:19|
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:13:12 -0400, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 11:33:25PM -0400, Ph. D. wrote:
> > Allow me to quote Richardson in _Learning_and_Using_the_International
> > _Language_:
> > To get the sound of "e" really right, do this: Place two fingers lightly
> > across your mouth . . . and say "they" very carefully. Feel how the
> > lips and jaw shift position midway through the "ey" sound. That's
> > because in English, the sound of "ey" is really made up of two sounds:
> > "eh" followed by "ee". Now practice saying just the "eh" without
> > sliding into the "ee" sound. That is how you pronounce "e" correctly
> > in Esperanto.
> And that is a description of the sound spelled in X-SAMPA as [e].
Hm? The sound I'd render in English as "eh" is X-SAMPA [E] (though it
can be [e] in SAMPA-for-English IIRC).
The "long a" diphthong is [EI] for me, or possibly [Ei] or [Ej], i.e.
its first component is [E], not [e].
> [e] does
> *not* mean "the English long-a sound". It means "the English long-a
> sound without the glide"
Not for this English speaker. [Ej] is what usually comes out when a
generic Anglophone tries to pronounce [e], but I consider neither
component of this diphthong to be [e].
I believe speakers of Scottish English use [e] for this phoneme, though.
> or "the Spanish e-sound" - both of which are
> different from [E], which is the English short-e sound.
I thought that "the Spanish e-sound" was also [E]. How would you transcribe it?
How about French |ê| in |bête| or |nette| - [E] or not?
Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>