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Re: Verbal distinctions

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 19, 2003, 13:20
Quoting vaksje <vaksje@...>:

> On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 02:12:33PM +0200, Andreas Johansson wrote: > > Quoting vaksje <vaksje@...>: > > > > > [snip] > > > > If I'm reading this arightly, what you suggest is at least on the surface > very > > similar to what happens in (my conlang) Tairezazh. You'd get _ta ken_ "I > live" > > and _ta ken zent_ "I want to live". _Ken_ is still the finite verb - > putting > > this in the past tense yields _ta kenk_ "I lived" and _ta kenk zent_ "I > wanted > > to live". > > This is indeed what I meant. Does Tairezazh have any other words in the > same category as _zent_ or is it a closed cateory (thus lexically > restricted), with plain infinitives used for the remaining cases?
It's a closed class of so-called "modal adverbs", with eight members. From my website: Interogative; marker _fe_; turns the verb's sentence into a yes-or no question; eg Seno dhek fe? "Did he go?". Potential; marker _fiks_; indicates ablitity of carrying out the verb's action; eg Seno dhek fiks? "He can go, he is able of going". Debitive; marker _gez_; indicates that the subject should do something; eg Senen dhek gez "They should go". Obligative; marker _koi_; indicates that the subject needs do something; eg Seno dhek koi "He needs to go". Subjunctive; marker _lep_; indicates irrealis or hypotheticality; eg Tse sena ak lep ated "If she were here". Permissive; marker _skei_; indicates that the subject is allowed to carry out an action; eg Sha raig skei "You may eat". Necessitive; marker _tsin_; indicates that the subject must do something; eg Sena dhek tsin "She must go". Desiderative; marker _zent_; indicates a wish to carry out the verb's action; eg Sena ak zent ated "She want to be here". These are the ones in Standard Tairezazh; dialects may have slightly different sets. The related Steienzh language have similar set, which includes a "dictive" marker _ma_ [m@], used for indicating direct speech, and an imperative marker _er_ [@r] (whose Tairezazh cognate has clitized and become a regular inflection with different distribution form these adverbs). Andreas
> > However, _zent_ "to want" isn't syntactically a verb at all - it's an > > uninflectable adverb. Perhaps your -k could be interpreted as an > adverbizer? > > Yeah, the concept of an adverbizer seems logical, since information is > added to an existing verb, instead of rearrganging them into an > infinitive structure. > > > Andreas > > -- > vaksje. >

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