Re: New (Well, Revamped) Language: TIEG'EW / GABWE
| From: | Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...> |
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| Date: | Friday, November 10, 2000, 13:46 |
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On Thu, 9 Nov 2000 23:40:57 -0500 Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...> writes:
> ROFL! Have you seen Froud & someone's _A Field Guide to Goblins_?
> I
> challenge some knowledgable conlanger to figure out a language from
> *that.*
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Nope, i haven't seen that.
> > Possible Syllable Structures Are:
> > C, V, CV, VC, CVC, CRV, VRC, CVRC, CRVC, CRVRC.
> > (R = glide, approximant, flap)
> > (C = any consonant, including G/A/Fs)
>
> Question: when you figure out syllable structure and you're *not*
> doing
> the cheesy (C)V(C) thing like I tend to do, how do you figure out
> something that will avoid messy consonant-cluster jams that are
> really
> difficult to pronounce? (I find the latter part of German "du
> sprichst"
> really hard.) Your example is neat...do you use a particular
> system?
> Knowledge of phonetics? I just picked upa book on phonetics, intro,
> so I wonder if that'd help....
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This is the first time that i've made anything with syllable constraints
like this. Rokbeigalmki has many hard consonant clusters, but i wanted
this to be easier to pronounce, considering i had put in the incredibly
confusing (to me) pair of phonemes /4/ and /R/, as well as the gemination
fricatives. So i just looked at the sounds, and saw that having stops at
the ends but not next to eachother would make it smoother.
> Is this stress by making-syllable-louder? Neat idea! :-) I bet it
> will
> end up sounding unusual and, well, goblinesque.
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It comes out louder, lengthened, and sometimes higher-pitch as well. It
ended up sounding really Goblinesque when i realized that when trying to
train myself to pronounce {e} as /E/ and not /e/ caused me to adopt
creaky voice!
> On a side note, I did a hash job of "phonology" for a play-by-email
> fantasy roleplaying campaign my sister and I are running, Shazrad:
> City
> of Veils (
http://www.bigfoot.com/~shazrad/). I am sure that any
> conlanger who happens across the site will wince...but at the time I
> hadn't picked up any books on phonology/phonetics and we wanted a
> "naming
> guide" for people so they would know what sorts of names fit into
> the
> language and culture.
> YHL, returning to Evil Abstract Algebra Homework