Re: How to Make Chicken Cacciatore (was: phonetics by guesswork)

Quoting Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>:

> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:05:57 +0200, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:
> > The rest of what you're saying, I do not really understand - do you mean
> that
> > German has merged /Y/ and /2/? As in, _möchte_ and _Früchte_ rhymes?
>
> "möchte" has /9/, not /2/ - perhaps "mögen" and "Mücken" is a closer
> pair to exemplify /2/ vs. /Y/ in the standard language.
We would seem to be using different phonematization schemes - I'd transcribe the
vowels of _möchte_ and _mögen_ as /2/ and /2:/, considering length to be the
phonemic difference.

Be that as it may, that the "mögen" vowel has merged with /Y/ (which I'd
normally would rather write as /y/) would seem an even more extraordinary claim
than that the "möchte" one has.

                                                      Andreas

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