Re: How to Make Chicken Cacciatore (was: phonetics by guesswork)
| From: | Philip Newton <philip.newton@...> |
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| Date: | Tuesday, July 20, 2004, 19:46 |
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:05:57 +0200, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:
> The rest of what you're saying, I do not really understand - do you mean that
> German has merged /Y/ and /2/? As in, _möchte_ and _Früchte_ rhymes?
"möchte" has /9/, not /2/ - perhaps "mögen" and "Mücken" is a closer
pair to exemplify /2/ vs. /Y/ in the standard language.
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:38:51 +0200, Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...> wrote:
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> But it isn't /'loi.te/ that becomes /lIt/ rather the form which
> [loe.t@] *developed from* became [lIt], which is a different thing.
> I cant give any references off the top of my head, but I'm almost
> certain that the Middle High German preform of /oi/ was /2H/.
> It is not at all hard to imagine that this monophthongized to
> something [Y]-ish which then unrounded.
The cognate is "Lüüd" in (at least some variants of) Plattdeutsch,
FWIW, with /y/.
Cheers,
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Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
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