Re: How to Make Chicken Cacciatore (was: phonetics by guesswork)

Quoting "J. 'Mach' Wust" <j_mach_wust@...>:

> Andreas Johansson wrote:
> >Most of my books write [O2] - I've also seen [OY] and [Oy] (the last not
> > being meaningfully different from [OH], I guess).
>
> To my ears, [Oy] isn't accurate. I think that [OY] and [O2] are just the
> same, since German [2] merges with [Y], being rather [2_r] than plain [2].
[OY] and [O2] are certainly not the same; they're "absolute" phonetic forms, in
principle independent of phonemics and language.

The rest of what you're saying, I do not really understand - do you mean that
German has merged /Y/ and /2/? As in, _möchte_ and _Früchte_ rhymes? That would
certainly not conform to my experience, nor has a such phenomenon been mentioned
in any of the phonological texts on German I've read.

                                          Andreas

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