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Re: Case's Name

From:Scotto Hlad <scotto@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 15:13
When I studied Greek in college in the last millenium, the genitive case was
defined as the case of description.

The house(nom) brick(genitive)

Though this may or may not be "official" linguistic definition (as I am not
an official linguist!) it seems to work quite well to me.

As another option, a person could easily define a new case name to describe
this particular relationship. As my thesaurus is still packed from having
just moved I can't propose any new ideas. I also haven't had any coffee this
morning either so nothing is poking outwards either.

-----Original Message-----
From: Constructed Languages List []On
Behalf Of Remi Villatel
Sent: August 7, 2005 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Case's Name

# 1 wrote:

> For Vbazi, to find a way to express meanings like "orange juice", "milk > coffee", or "apple pie", I've invented a preposition that is a > "preposition of composition" that works like "juice PREP orange" and > "coffee PREP milk". > > Is there a name for the case that the modified noun is in? I've searched > a few case lists and been unable to find something like this.
Well, the word "commitative" popped into my head when I read your post. There is one preposition that could fit in the 3 examples: juice with orange coffee with milk pie with apple It works except that to my "semantical ear", juice with orange sounds like beverage with orange and something else. As for the french "à", it doesn't fit with juice. Instead you must must use "de" which stands for "made of" or "coming from". /jus d'orange/ = juice from orange The french "à" fits only with "beverage": /boisson à l'orange/ = beverage with orange (In French, with use this expression to describe cheap chemical beverages that don't deserve the name of orange juice.) Any way, I don't see anything wrong with having the same preposition for the 3 expressions as long as the "with" stands for "containing" but you should consider having a special preposition only for "juice". beverage containing orange coffee containing milk pie containing apple juice from orange (ablative?) orange's juice (genitive?) tool containing steel house containing stone And so on... -- ================== Remi Villatel ==================