Re: Hello again, and a syntax question

Gerald Koenig wrote:

> >Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 1999 11:37:59 PST
> >From: "J. Barefoot"" <lesfraises@...>"
> >Subject:      Hello again, and a syntax question
> >
> >Hello Everybody! Remember me? Well, I barely have time to read this
> >thing anymore, let alone input to the conversation. Sorry. I hate
> >lurking, but it's a necessary evil.
> >Anyway, I have a question. The language I've been working on
> >(discovering?) recently has resumptive pronouns (in the formal or high
> >register), but I'm not quite clear on how they work. The scheme I've
> >been using is:
> >
> >The shirt that you want is on the bed.
> >The shirt -this clause relative- you want it.resumptive topic on the
> >bed.
> >An fe xiyan na ti ngipai inya wa ma fiy@.
> Hi, Jennifer,
>
> I can show you how I would write these sentences in the Nilenga dialect
> of NGL if I wanted to follow your schema. I would assign an "it-1" to
> the shirt as soon as it is mentioned, thus:
>
> The shirt [name it it-1] that you want: [it-1] is on the bed.
>
> An fe [gua] na ti ngipai [gol] wa ma fiy@. (If I understand you).
> <gua> means "I assign 'it-1' to the preceeding word [fe] or phrase."
> <gol> means "it-1".
> The shirt [I call it it-1] that you want; [it-1] is on the bed.
Hi, Jerry, Hi, Jennifer.

Deaf sign languages use the space for marking the objects of the speech, =
and
after I'm partly basing Chleweyish on Colombian Sign Language, for a
spoken/writen enviroment I come to something closer to Nil=E8nga's free
pronouns.  Actually Chleweyish has one resumptive pronoun (don't know if =
the
name is correct) _yor_, which will refere to the subject of the previous
sentence, and four "spacial" pronouns that are asigned ad {gua} and refer=
ed
as {gol}.
(=E1 =3D a acute, =E9 =3D e acute, =F3 =3D o acute, =FA =3D o acute)

The spacial pronouns are _om=E1_, _om=E9_, _om=F3_ and _om=FA_ and are as=
igned by
_eb=E1_, _eb=E9_, _ib=F3_ and _ib=FA_ respectively, then, the phrase woul=
d have
been:
  Vurca can, ley zape, can, yor asyena lance.
  shirt what? you search what? it bed is-on.
or
  Vurca eb=E1.  Ley zap=E1e.  Em=E1 asyaba lance.
  shirt there1 you search-it1 it-1 bet is-on

The _om@_ series are useful when there are many elements and you will ref=
ere
to them much later, _yor_ can only refere back one or two senteneces.

--
Carlos Th
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/9028/

Luh=EDz=F9langk=FBr=EB puh=EDz=F9langy=EFm=EAr=EB
Luh=EDz=F9langk=FBr=EB puh=E9v=F9lay=EFm=EAyih=EDz=F9
                -- Hangkerim proverb

Vec=FBr=EBrangk=FBr=EB
                -- Hangkerim proverb