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Re: E and e

From:Danny Wier <dawier@...>
Date:Friday, April 4, 2003, 1:14
From: "Roger Mills" <romilly@...>

> French: > anything written é (e-acute) > anything written è (e-grave) as in "congrès", or sometimes "ai" as in > "j'aime"; presumably both in "aimé, lèse-majesté" > or "e" followed by two consonants-- cette [sEt], both in blessé [blE'se] > (not sure about this....)(1)
I just figured out that Tech is called Tech because the French call it _le tèque_ (is the e-grave necessary?)
> (1) a very confusing word if one's French is as imperfect as mine used to > be..."dans la bataille il y avait 500 blessés" 'in the battle there were
500
> blessed??????'
"500 hit", I believe.
> German: > [e] as in zehn 'ten' > [E] as in Bett 'bed'
Hebrew (Tiberian and Ashkenazic) has /E/ _segol_ and /e/ _tsere_; also /O/ _qamets_ and /o/ _cholam_. The closed vowels are always long in Biblical Hebrew; the open ones are either short or long. Russian does have allophonic [e], with /e/ between soft (palatized) consonants, and also [{] when /a/ is between two soft consonants. But no [o] allophone I'm aware of, just one pronunciation of /O/. Proto-West Slavic had this vowel system: a E e (< ie?) i 1 O o (< uo?) u. Polish o-acute and Czech u-ring come from the same closed-o vowel. Spanish, at least the Latin American varieties I've heard, has two allophones of /e/: [E] in closed syllables and [e] in open syllables. Likewise, /o/ is split into two allophones [O] and [o]. Pre-Classical Greek had /E/ <E>, /E:/ <H>, and /e:/ <EI>; also /O/ <O>, /O:/ <W>, and /o:/ <OY> -- but /o:/ > /u:/ pretty early. <W> is *supposed* to be Omega. Yoruba and its relatives have open and closed E and O. The open phonemes are written with dots beneath -- but some African languages (not necessarily Niger-Kordofanian) use IPA episilon and reverse-c! Hindi and its relatives developed long low vowels /{:/ and /Q:/ from Sanskrit /ai)/ and /au)/, in addition to /e/ and /o/.

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