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Re: Furrin phones in my own lect! (YAGPT warning!)

From:Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
Date:Monday, March 27, 2006, 13:24
On 3/27/06, Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...> wrote:
> Henrik Theiling skrev: > > >>(I believe German has a near-obligatory glottal stop before > >>word-initial -- possibly even morpheme-initial -- vowels, so I have > >>the same tendency.) > > I remember my mother, who is a German L1 speaker, correcting > me when I pronounced the word _Verein_, which I had only > encountered in writing, as [fe'rain], insisting that it > be [fe6'?ain]! > > Since _ein_ is a stem, I think your rule holds, except > that it should be "stem-initial and word initial": > surely a prefix like _un-_ is pronounced [?un]!
Though not all native speakers "obey" this rule -- case in point is the pronunciation of "erinnern", which is [?E6'?In6n] for me but [?E'RIn6n] for some (which sounds wrong to me). BTW, I used to think that the vocalised /r/ was [a], not [6], until I met an American who apparently pronounced [a] in such cases, and it sounded distinctly odd -- the vowel sound was simply wrong. Since them, I've become convinced that [6] is a separate phone from [a] in German. Cheers, -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>


Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>