Re: Necessity of Conculture?

Chris Peters wrote:
>         But is it possible to go the other way?  To create a language f=
or
its own
> sake?  What do the rest of y'all think?  How important is that concultu=
re,
> as a part of the art of the conlang?
I could guess that the conculture-conlang relationship has many origines:
the conculture comes first and the language follows as part of the cultur=
e,
the language comes first and you imagine who would speak it creating
something form a sketching culture to a complete new world with different
kind of conceptions... or you just like imaging and creating things, thos=
e
things include languages and include worlds and when you put together bot=
h
kind of creations you have a concluture with a conlang.  (The last is my
case).

But I don't believe the tight relationship between culture a language mus=
t
exist.  Larger languages like English or Spanish are spoken by too many k=
ind
of people... of course Language and Culture interfere with each other, as
religion, music or dancing, but there is not one-one relationship, and if=
 I
want I could create a language with no culture attached... I've been work=
ing
in the NGL project which has its aims but is not attached to any construc=
tec
culture... it pretends to reflect the culture of people today and in the
future and if it succeds it will be creating its own culture, as Esperant=
o
and Lojban has already done.

And I've also been working on a personal language, a language based on my
own ideas and world philosophy, which will reflect, not my culture meanin=
g
the culture around me, but myself: the Chleweiness.  I have not to constu=
rct
a culture, it will be appearing if that "culture of one" is a correct
concept.

So you don't have to create a culture.  The culture will develop from the
language, or from the language speakers, or will never develop and the
language is there.  I develop a Hagkerim culture with a Hangkerimce langu=
age
just because I find it funny.  As I find funny developing NGL or Chleweyi=
sh,
without inventing a culture for them.

-- Carlos Th
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