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Re: "Language Creation" in your conlang

From:Muke Tever <hotblack@...>
Date:Friday, November 14, 2003, 15:16
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:01:36 +0100, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
wrote:
> Quoting Roger Mills <romilly@...>: >> Matt Trinsic wrote: >> > By an interesting coincidence, my language also happens to have two >> > roots for the verb 'make'.
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>> >> Curiously, so does Kash, and then some.
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> > Is this some kind of areal feature of CONLANG? > > As said, Tairezazh makes a distinction between _zlai_ "create (with > artistic purpose)" and _zaz_ "create, construct, design".
"not me too" Well, Atlantic-K doesnt have two words for 'make'... 'make' itself is actually just one of the two words for 'do': <brešva> ['vrESvA] and <škravva> ['SkrovA]. They're essentially synonymous, but for that, roughly speaking, <brešva> refers to things, and <škravva> to actions. You _could_ gloss them as 'make/fashion' and 'act/perform', but there is no unitary verb meaning 'do'; these verbs do (=<škror>) that job. An example, if you accidentally knocked over a vase you might indicate it and ask: E brešva tâmme? [E "vrESvA "t@mmE] PAST do-AOR-1s DEM "Did I do that?" [That's a rather idiomatic example... you might expect <škravva> because of the action of knocking it over, but in a case like this you refer actually to the zillion broken pieces of ceramic littering the floor. A Kirumb speaker might reason it by saying 'you wouldnt have asked the question if you hadnt have broken it, no?'] Less obscurely, if you're at a friend's house and see a hideous crayon drawing magneted to the refrigerator, you'd ask: E brešto Âlkint tâmme? [E "vrEStO "O:kEnt "t@mmE] PAST do-AOR-3s Alkint DEM "Did Alkint make that?" [<Âlkint>'s weird pronunciation is of course due to conservative spelling...] If you see an incompetent mime in the street, flailing his arms about in an unreadable manner, you might have to ask your friend: Kedâ škrééte? ["kEd@ "Skre:tE] what do-3s "What's he doing?" ...because it's his actions you're referring to. *Muke! -- http://frath.net/ http://kohath.livejournal.com/ E jer savne zarjé mas ne (You put music in my heart Se imné koone'f metha And with the spirit of an artist Brissve mé kolé adâ. I will make the dreamtime)