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Re: Taxonomy of supernatural beings

From:Muke Tever <mktvr@...>
Date:Wednesday, September 18, 2002, 22:17
From: "Christophe Grandsire" <christophe.grandsire@...>
> En réponse à Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>: > > BTW, according to my textbook on the world's religions, _Tiwaz_, _Tyr_ > > isn't > > cognate of, _Dyaus_, _Zeus_, _Ju(-piter)_ etc, but of *_deiwos_, > > _deus_, > > _daeva_ etc. Any IEists around to clarify a bit? > > Strange, because Dyaus, Zeus and Ju(ppiter) *are* cognates of deus, daeva, and > all come from PIE *deiwos. The case of "Juppiter" is extremely clear, since it > comes from *deiwos-pHter (the H is one of the PIE laryngeals, but I can't > remember its number. Anyway, it's the one that gave the short a in Latin
pater,
> and the short i in Sanskrit pitar): deus-pater. So the claim of your textbook > is quite contradictory :)) .
The "father" word is *p2-te:r, with *H2. (L *-te:r > -ter) OK. *deywos L deus and di:vus < OL deivos Ved. devá- Lith. die~vas Gmc. *Ti:waz > OE Ti:w > ON Ty:r *dyew- L Iuppiter (*dyew-p2ter) L Iovis < OL Diovos (*dyewos) G Zeu= (*dyew) G Zeu/s (*dye:ws) Ved. dyá:us (*dye:ws) Apparently *dyew- is the original root (meaning "God" = "Jove/Zeus"), and *deyw was formed by adding the -e- to the zero grade *diw, and ending up with meaning "god" = "etc." *Muke! -- http://www.frath.net/