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Re: CHAT: Visigoths (was: YADPT (D=Dutch))

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 18:59
On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 05:16 AM, Phillip Driscoll wrote:

> Andreas Johansson wrote: >> >> BTW, did _austr-_ go ninety digrees anticlock- >> wise and at some point? Austria and Austrasia >> must surely refer to these being _eastern_ places, >> not southern ones. Or are they just cases of >> superficial latinization? > > > I don't know German, but isn't the German name > for Austria _Österreich_, which means something > like "Eastern Country"?
Yes, it is - Eastern Empire. But 'Austria' is superficial latinization AFAIK, fairly obviously influenced by 'Auster' in some vague, folksy way.
> I've always assumed that English _Austria_ was > just a corruption of _Österreich_,
no, no - we're not that bad :)
> rather than a derivation from Latin.
It's a latinization.
> P.S. In North America, we always say, "counter- > clockwise." The only time I've heard "anticlockwise" > was from a math teacher who was from South Africa.
I've come across both usages in the UK - but 'anticlockwise' is IME the more common. 'counterclockwise' has a more "folksy" feel to it (therefore, I prefer it). Ray =============================================== http://home.freeuk.com/ray.brown ray.brown@freeuk.com (home) raymond.brown@kingston-college.ac.uk (work) ===============================================

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