Re: Consonant clusters
From: | Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...> |
Date: | Monday, July 8, 2002, 23:07 |
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:18:09 +0200 Christophe Grandsire
<christophe.grandsire@...> writes:
> It also has /r/. That was the hardest for me,
> > distinguishing /r/ and /R/ (or /M\/ as you wrote it).
> /R/ is a voiced uvular fricative, the French |r| basically, not a
> velar
> approximant (unless you're using another transcription than X-SAMPA,
> although I
> would find such a transcription strange: I don't find anything very
> rhotic in
> the velar approximant, I find it more comparable to /G/ - for good
> reasons ;))) -). I personally find /r/ and /M\/ very different (but
> I agree
> that /R/ and /M\/ are probably more difficult to distinguish).
> Christophe.
-
I was just using the way that i've been used to transcribing the
|R-acute| of Gabwe. I associate that sound with rhotics because if i'm
not mistaken that's how one Modern Israeli Hebrew dialect pronounces its
/r/.
I actually made up a big chart of all the different dialects of /Nga:mb
we./ (the Proto-Gabwe form of the name), maybe i should make it into a
picture file and put it up on the web. Btw, how do you mark in IPA or
ASCII-IPA a vowel that is centralized along a border of the Vowel
Trapezoid? Proto-Gabwe's four vowels written in my chart as |a e i o|
with a dot on top are such vowels, of the low, front, high, and back
borders respectively.
Hey, what the heck... here's the picturefied chart:
http://bingweb.binghamton.edu/~bh11744/gabwe/Tiereans.jpg
The geminates are at syllable boundaries.
-Stephen (Steg)
"shinies?"
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