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Re: Cloak room... x: [YAEUT] Lexical variation survey

From:ROGER MILLS <rfmilly@...>
Date:Monday, May 12, 2008, 20:42
Nomad of Norad wrote:
> > That's interesting. For some reason I'd always thought the "cloak room" > > was a clothes-closet that was located near the front or back door, that > > you would take off your cloak (that is, long-coat), put it on a hanger, > > and hang it in the "cloak room" before heading on into the house proper.
To me that's just the "coat closet" or depending on location "hall closet"........
>
Keith Bertelsen wrote:
>To me, the "cloak room" was something we had in elementary school; one of >the walls could actually open up (via a bunch of panels all revolving) to >reveal a closet-like area behind it. In the mornings, that's where we >stored our coats (and bags &c), and in the evenings, where we obtained them >again. Coats, of course, being the modern form of cloaks. >
Agreed, although in my Elem.Sch. it was a separate room with a proper doorway that stank of wet wool in wintertime :-( There's also the infamous "Senate cloak room" at the Capitol in Washington where deals are made.........
>The word "room" would imply an ability to walk into; the difference between >a coat closet and a cloak room is that the former is too shallow to justify >entering, while the latter would mean that it could be entered. (Walk-in >closets straddling the line here). > >I have never heard of a half bathroom called a cloakroom, and I'm from the >USA.
LIkewise on both counts.
>On the other hand, I've also never bought a house; though I'm at the age >where I've started looking into it, and from what I've seen (and heard from >growing up), half bath(room)s are always just called half bath(room)s. I'm >in St. Louis, MO, so maybe it's a regional thing?
Half-bath does seem to be current realtor-speak. In my early days, it was called "lavatory".

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