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Re: Rare phonemes (was Re: Using word generators)

From:Steven Williams <feurieaux@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 1:17
--- Roger Mills <rfmilly@...> schrieb:

> I'm not at all sure that forms exist in which "final > -tsch [is] etymologically a single unit."
I can't think of any way it could be. [tS] comes from two sources: Romance languages (/tschüss/, /Cembalo/) or the loss of a vowel between the phonemes [t] and [S] (the aformentioned /Deutsch/, and maybe /hübsch/?).
> How about ...hat schon... 'has already...', > or ...hat schön(e)... 'has beautiful...'-- these > could contrast with a putative "hatschen" (if such a > form exists) semi-comparable to the English example.
Yeah, something like that. I've been wracking my brain, trying to come up with real-world minimal pairs. Your suggestion's as close as can be gotten. Maybe we can find examples in dialects (as already mentioned, Hochdeutsch seems to have a marked poverty of the [tS] phoneme)... ___________________________________________________________ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de