Re: Rare phonemes (was Re: Using word generators)
From: | Steven Williams <feurieaux@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 1:17 |
--- Roger Mills <rfmilly@...> schrieb:
> I'm not at all sure that forms exist in which "final
> -tsch [is] etymologically a single unit."
I can't think of any way it could be. [tS] comes from
two sources: Romance languages (/tschüss/, /Cembalo/)
or the loss of a vowel between the phonemes [t] and
[S] (the aformentioned /Deutsch/, and maybe
/hübsch/?).
> How about ...hat schon... 'has already...',
> or ...hat schön(e)... 'has beautiful...'-- these
> could contrast with a putative "hatschen" (if such a
> form exists) semi-comparable to the English example.
Yeah, something like that. I've been wracking my
brain, trying to come up with real-world minimal
pairs. Your suggestion's as close as can be gotten.
Maybe we can find examples in dialects (as already
mentioned, Hochdeutsch seems to have a marked poverty
of the [tS] phoneme)...
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